Financial Road Map® Misc.
Can I, after looking through a client documents on the spot decide what to charge? Meaning, if they have one million in assets that I could manage, do I not charge them a planning fee? I could recoup the cost for the plan from the management fees?
You can do anything you want, but that’s not what we recommend. We recommend that you charge all of your clients the same amount or the same percentage of net worth or assets for delivering the same service. And our preference is a flat fee where all of your clients pay the same amount, regardless of how much money they have. It may take you a while to adapt to this approach, mostly mentally. It’s a simpler, therefore better, way to run your business and serve your clients.
What do you do if someone shows up 15 minutes late for a Financial Road Map® meeting after having rescheduled twice?
If you are asking me, personally, what I would do… I would accept that as a “sign from God” that this person is not an Ideal Client and not meet with them. Just for clarification, do your Ideal Clients show up on time and prepared for their meetings? Fundamentally, this is why very few advisors build Ideal Client Communities… they are too busy dealing with all the idiosyncrasies of their non Ideal Clients.
I do not have a securities license as of yet. I only have Life and Health at this time. How can I use the Values Conversation™ and the Financial Roadmap® with just having these licenses?
You can partner with others in your office, firm, or community to deliver on the Values Based Financial Planning™ promise. The Values Based Financial Planning™ promise is a comprehensive, written financial plan, and implementation and accountability service and support. Who can you partner with to write the plan? Who can you partner with to provide the investment expertise? Who can you partner with for solid advice in various areas of insurance? Who can you partner with to take care of the tax and legal issues? We call this building your Deliverables Team. Your job is to be the Trusted Advisor and the Client Relations Manager. The Subject Matter, or technical experts, are your Deliverables Team. Nobody is smart enough or has the time to be an expert in all of the areas necessary to truly fully serve clients.
I have just started the program and just starting to practice the Financial Road Map Interview™. However, in my client base I have a number of high net worth clients who are retired. In the Financial Road Map® conversations for existing clients, how do you approach the financial independence stage as these clients are already retired living off their investments? Just wondering how this fits in for this type of client as it looks more like the Financial Road Map Interview™ is for clients who are not there yet.
There is no “financial independence stage” built into the Financial Road Map Interview™. Everyone has goals related to their money. I have no idea why you would assume that a Financial Road Map® would be more applicable for less successful people rather than more successful people. Successful people and retirees love the Financial Road Map®. You ask clients what their goals are that require money and planning to achieve and they tell you. People who are already retired and living off their assets will often have a goal of being financially independent forever. They have many other goals as well. The exact same 3 questions for building out a goal apply. When you are actually doing Financial Road Maps® (versus just starting to practice) you will discover this for yourself.
I recently met someone and did a self-referral. We completed his Financial Road Map® and then asked if we could meet again for me to meet his fiancée as well as his personal accountant. We met and I helped his fiancée complete her Values Staircase™ and discussed their goals. During the meeting the accountant made it clear that she was the gatekeeper for these clients, that she'd be reviewing our statements every month and that she would need to have input on the asset allocation, etc. Any advice on how to work with the accountant? The client values her and their relationship very much.
You are the Trusted Advisor. The accountant may or not be on your team, not the other way around. Remember, it’s you who are going to make sure they get their entire financial house in perfect order and keep it that way forever… not the accountant. Explain how you work to your clients and get them on board. As you continue your journey and work through the Trusted Advisor Toolkit and attend the Values-Based Financial Planning Office™ for further Leadership development your skills and confidence in this area will improve.
I have relationships with many business leaders and professionals in my community that I believe will be great referral sources. Most of them are not currently clients, so I have not conducted Financial Road Map Interviews™ with them. It seems logical that I would want to get them and their spouses in for a Financial Road Map Interview™ before I start asking them for referrals, but I’d like some help on what a reasonable process would be to lead up to scheduling those Financial Road Map Interviews™, i.e. face to face meeting to explain how I am expanding my practice, delivering the book, sharing the diagram of Trusted Advisor and Subject Matter Expert relationships. Or should I treat them as a self referral and follow that process?
Instead of thinking of them as referral sources, think of them as people who would benefit from Values-Based Financial Planning and having their Financial Road Map® done. Have them come in to experience the Financial Road Map® for their own benefit. Some of them will become clients and some may not. We do not advocate non-clients being referral sources for obvious reasons. Namely, it doesn’t make much sense for a person who doesn’t do business with you to refer others to do business with you. Focus on helping what you might have traditionally in the past viewed as “Centers of Influence / referral sources” get their own financial house in order and, after they become a client, follow the referral process that we teach.
When doing Financial Road Maps® for existing clients, I know they are not going to be going forward when I get to the Commitment to Hire™ because I know what they have in assets. Is it important to still proceed as if I didn’t know? And, should I be doing Financial Road Maps® on these people.
First of all, one of the common experiences of advisors getting started with Values-Based Financial Planning™ and doing Financial Road Maps® is that they discover clients have money elsewhere that could make them Ideal Clients, so do yourself a favor and do not assume you have all their money or even know where all their money is. Have them come to the Financial Road Map Interview™ appointment, with both spouses, and bring all of their financial documents. There is a clear pause between All The Money Conversation™ and Commitment to Hire Conversation™. If you do not want to be hired, do not offer to be hired. Just tell the truth about why you don’t believe you should be their Financial Advisor and give them advice about what do next. It could be a referral to another advisor or guidance to connect with quality Do-It-Yourself resources. Not everyone is supposed to be working with you and not everybody is supposed to be working with a Financial Advisor at all. Please click the...
After the initial Financial Road Map Interview™, when do I collect more details from the client to put together a detailed implementation plan, which is the next meeting, if the person becomes an Ideal Client? The Financial Road Map Interview™ does not collect the detailed information needed for a detailed implementation plan.
If they bring ALL of their financial documents to the Financial Road Map Interview™ and answer all four pieces of each goal you have almost everything you need to create their plan and prepare for the Implementation Meeting™. Do not waste their time asking them to fill out data in fact-finders for info like their Social Security Number when that information is contained in several of the documents they are leaving with you. If you need to do things like a risk tolerance questionnaire you have 3 choices to get that done: 1. Immediately following Commitment to Implement™. 2. As a homework assignment which they complete and return to you, preferably online. 3. During a phone appointment between the Financial Road Map Interview™ and Implementation Meeting™. It is common to speak with your client on the phone or communicate by email between the Financial Road Map Interview™ and the Implementation Meeting™ as you and your team are working on the plan to prepare for the...
Do I take out the Financial Road Map® that was completed on the Phone Consultation™ and recap the Values Staircase™ trying to take them higher? Then go into Pre-Commitment™?
1. Cover one Values Staircase™ completely, the one from the person you believe to be less dominant from the Phone Consultation™. 2. To the person who is less dominant, explain "When we spoke on the phone you told me What’s Important About To You is…." Recap their Values Staircase™. Once you are at the top stair completed during the Phone Consultation™ you have so far, pick up with "What's Important About… the last answer… To You?" 3. Go deeper into level 3 all the way to the top of the staircase. 4. Pre-Commitment™ as usual. 5. Switch to the other person and do the same thing. The important aspect to remember is to have the correct Way of Being™ when reviewing the Values Staircases™ done during the Phone Appointment. This will allow the client to get back to the right state of mind for completing their Values Staircase™ and get to Level 3 responses.
When running through the Financial Road Map® with existing clients that are older clients, is there a different way we should approach the tangible goal questions as it seems the older the clients, the less tangible goals that they have and what happens if a client cannot think of a tangible goal, how do you proceed from there? I have quite a number of older clients aged in their 70’s where this would occur.
For a person, at any age, who has already accomplished a goal they likely want continue to enjoy the benefits of having achieved that goal. For example, once a person has achieved a goal of being financially independent it is likely their new goal is be financially independent forever. They may also like the idea of planning to distribute money in different ways and these are goals. For example: give $10,000 / year to charity. Have a fund set aside of $100,000 to distribute to children, grandchildren, or other family member as needed. An annual vacation fund of $50,000. Re-decorate the house every 5 years fund of $. Etc. The assumption that old, rich people don't have goals is a mistake many Financial Advisors make. Don't be one of them.
Does the Financial Road Map® differentiate between the resources used to fund Goals vs. those used to fund Lifestyle?
Current lifestyle is funded from cash flow. Future goals from savings and investments. Only a person who is no longer working and living off their assets will have a goals related to “maintaining our lifestyle” which would be funded from assets.
The participants in happy relationships can sometimes have different ideas about the value of money, goals and how resources can/should be used to accomplish goals. How is this handled by the Bachrach & Associates process?
The Financial Road Map® handles this reality perfectly. Both of their value sets are captured on the two values staircases and there is no expectation that they be the same. (In fact, they never are.) The same is true for their goals. All of their goals are captured on the Financial Road Map® whether they are shared or a goal that is primarily more about one partner than another. You can tell that you are dealing with a couple in a good relationship by how well they each support each other in goals they would not have if they weren’t in that relationship. As far as “different ideas about how money should be used to accomplish goals,” that will no longer be relevant when you are their Trusted Advisor because they will have both agreed to follow your advice.
How is the Financial Road Map® shaped for business owners focused [initially, at least] on their professional interests? Note: they do not want their spouses involved
Personal financial planning always precedes business planning because until you know what a business owner and his / her family want to accomplish it’s impossible to know how to structure the business to make that happen. Keep in mind, that a primary purpose of a business is to serve the owners. Not the other way around. When you help business frame it this way you will become a much valued and Trusted Advisor to them. Don’t let the business owner suck you into business financial transactions first. The way you approach this is to say, “Is your objective to have your business running you and your life or to have you running your business to serve your life?” Business Owner: Unfortunately it often feels like my business is running me instead of me running it. But, I would like for my business to serve me better / more. Advisor: Don’t feel bad, that’s very common. I can help you with that. Most business owners are so involved with their business that it’s easy to put the...
As a "newbie" to the Bachrach & Associates process, I have been told that the focus of this initial part of my education is on the Financial Road Map® presentation. However, assuming the success of my training, I will be getting clients. EXACTLY what is it that I can offer these people that I can deliver on that is consistent with the Bachrach & Associates training?
First of all, PLEEEASE do not call it “the Financial Road Map® presentation.” There is no “presentation.” The Financial Road Map® creates a compelling and emotional interview experience for your clients and prospective clients. Your goal is to create an experience by asking really good questions and listening, NOT make a presentation. During the evaluation phase, you simply do whatever you have always done after you are hired. Now that you have their Financial Road Map® make sure that all of your financial planning and recommendations are in alignment with their most important goals and most deeply held values. At the Implementation Meeting (notice I did NOT call it the plan presentation meeting) you start the meeting with a recap of their values and goals and give your advice in the context of how it will help them achieve their goals for the reasons that are important to them. Your objective during the evaluation phase is to do at least 25 Financial Road Maps and achieve at...
I have been advised that there is a psychology that comes into play when a client pays for services (They are much more invested in the process if they pay for the service, no matter how little/much). If the payment does not take place until implementation [%AUM], does this minimize their commitment to the process? (Your experience here, please). What if there is no formal agreement to sign until implementation and the transfer of assets? What affect does this have? Do you have something that can be used? I am trying to find a "workaround" to the Financial Planning Agreement of my RIA, while still being compliant.
I am not so concerned about the psychology of the situation. I just think it’s good business to get paid when you get hired. If you are able, with your current licensing and / or registration, to collect a fee during the Commitment to Hire conversation of the Financial Road Map® interview then do that. If not, do whatever works within the parameters of the law / regulators for you. We don’t have “work-around.”
How do I implement corporate assets into a clients Financial Road Map®? I have a client that has retained earnings in her business that I also manage. How does this work into the Financial Road Map®? How would I work with them as an Ideal Client? This client earns over $300k per year and she draws 120k out as her salary per year. Her husband is not a shareholder in this business and she prefers to keep personal and business separate. Would I do a Success Road Map® for her business instead?
Retained earnings from a business do not have a place on the Financial Road Map®. Money from the business is only relevant to the extent that it is distributed to the owner to spend, save, and / or invest. What does have a place, however, is the current market value of the business and a system for measuring the future value of the business. Business equity is often a substantial asset to fund future goals. As you evolve working with the Trusted Advisor Toolkit and Mark Little you will learn more about these kinds of specifics.

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